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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Risa
Post Number: 9880
Registered: 05-2003
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Looking for our members to motivate and inspire our transplant buddies. on our forums and blogs.
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:24 am: |
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Hmmmm..... Do they have to be certified? Hehe
I know a good deal about bodybuilding and fitness ( got acute liver failure training for a natural bb show actually :-/ ) but deff not certified, accountant by trade lol |
CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2708
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:43 am: |
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Exactly what do you want? I have posted several things, including my blog. I definitely do know a thing or two about eating right and exercise.
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10950
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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Hi Mashka
Perhaps you can ask who would be interested in being pushed around LOL
You can start with me.
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2710
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:35 pm: |
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Glad I asked about it.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10951
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:36 pm: |
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I will add that currently, I am walking quickly on my treadmill (gave up jogging) at a pace of 3.5
I love pushups (the girly kind) I actually can do 15 man pushups. Several times per day I do wall pushups.
I love exercises that you can do with your own body weight like yoga and pilates.
Any suggestions? I am going to start walking twice daily on my treadmill and once the weather changes, I will be taking long walks outside.
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:27 pm: |
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Rise you're funny!
I'm no bully but love to give advise when I can.
Wow cardio twice a day? Might become a figure competitor at that rate! Lol but that's great! Esp try playing around with the incline and ofcourse try not to hold on to the railings. When I would train for my shows I only did low intensity cardio like walking on incline, so I'd get bored and do few minutes sideways, few mins backwards walk. I must say that walking on the readmil is probably pretty bad idea only because it feels like it might mess up the knees a bit but walking backwards is real fun! Deff need to drop the speed though
And I agree with u on body weight exercises. I canrt wait till I can curve my back out so I can get back to attempting pull ups!
By the way, 15 regular pushups is no joke for a girl! Wow!
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LadyDi
Forum Leader
Username: Ladydi
Post Number: 1971
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:55 pm: |
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Mashka, what caused your liver failure? Was it particular supplements or something else? Hope you don't mind me asking, but I was just curious.
Kidney Donor to Husband 10/30/07
Forum Leader-Living Organ Donation
Barnes Jewish Hospital St. Louis, Mo
I walk slowly, but I never walk backward - Abraham Lincoln |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:35 pm: |
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Hey LadyDi,
I don't mind speaking about it at all, might as well spread the word. I started taking a fat burner that ccontained USNIC ACID. I bought it in april and tookit for 2 weeks prepping for my 1st show. I was ok. But then kept taking the night pills for few months even after the show (they sell day time pills and nght time ones, but both contain usnic acid). And then I was training for a show in september and started taking the day pills about twice a week and then boom, got weak, tuned yellow and was acting like I'm retarded (ok mentally chellanged I'm not sure pc term) mama called ER and woke up w new liver few days later.
Funny thing is that when I was in hosp the drs kept asking me what supps I take and I was thinking they all must assume I do steroids bc I'm a bodybuilder 'how ignorant! Pahhh!' Lol meanwhile they wanted to know about things like these.
Its so sad too bc these kind of things every joe dick and harry can buy online or in a pharmacy :-/ live and learn I guess
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10954
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:11 am: |
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Hi Mashka
I do not find walking on the treadmill boring. I watch tv while I walk. I use to walk backward on the beach. I tried walking backward on the treadmill very slowly a few years ago. Not sure why I do not do this anymore. I never tried side walking and don't think I will LOL I can see how this could help a tennis or racquetball game.
What did you mean when you said, "get curve your back out?"
Sorry to hear what happened with taking supplements. I agree that too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. I just had all my vitamin levels drawn as I do not want to take too much of any supplement.
Thank you for the tips. NOW let's see a photo!
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:51 am: |
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Hi Rise,
By curve my back I meant when you have your chest up and shoulders down and back. I think correct term would be hyperextend your back. I lost almost 2 inches of height after surgery, lol I mean I'm sure its still all there but the stitching pulled my shoulders forward and I was a bit hunched over. Its getting much better but still not like it was before. My dr said everything inside thhat needed to heal did so now I'm trying to stretch myself out day by day since he basically told me it was safe.
Picture? Lol I can show u pics from my comp in april! Lol right now look VERY funny from the prednesone making me all puffy!! Not showing that until it becomes a 'before' picture!! Lolll
Oh by the way threads like these are so motivational, I went to the gym yesterday wow I'm in so much pain today. Even talking about fitness, I notice, motivates you, its great u have this forum!
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10957
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:07 am: |
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Thank you Mashka
You can tell you have an upbeat personality through your writing! I think the biggest challenge for me when I am tired is standing with correct posture. I believe in time you can correct your back. Be patient!
Send me your old photos. They are very motivational as well.
Stretching + yoga = feel good exercises.
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Karen R.
Forum Leader
Username: Relivkaren
Post Number: 3769
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:32 pm: |
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Mashka:
Welcome to Transplant Buddies! I am so sorry to hear that supplement use caused your liver failure. I agree with you that it is scary what anyone can buy on the internet. I am just sad that something like happened to you. I am so glad that it all turned out okay and that you have a new liver and you are getting to the place where you can work out hard again. I am an exercise lover and can't wait to work out again. I am waiting for a double lung transplant due to a rare lung disease called Bronchiolitis Obliterans.
I think you would be a great trainer/motivator. You and Cisco could really compliment each other.
I am glad that you found us! I look forward to hearing more from you
God Bless!
Karen
Dx: BOOP - May 2006. Rediagnosed with Bronchiolitis Obliterans Nov. 2006
Listed Feb 2008 - Waiting on double lung transplant at Cleveland Clinic
Ohio, USA
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LadyDi
Forum Leader
Username: Ladydi
Post Number: 1978
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 01:19 pm: |
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Thanks for the info, Mashka. Cisco and I both are into the gym and weightlifting, but a little old (at 55 and 52) to worry too much about looks. While I am too old (in my eyes) and lack the discipline needed, I still enjoy looking and reading about the comps in M&F Hers and Oxygen.
I never have been a believer in many of the supplements - I think the claims are sometimes too good to be true, plus, being unregulated, I am very suspicious as to what is truly in there. I always thought it funny that in the men's magazines that Cisco reads, the supps all want to claim they make you bigger and in the women's magazines they all claim to make you smaller!
It is good to hear that you haven't let the transplant stop you. Good to have you with us!
Kidney Donor to Husband 10/30/07
Forum Leader-Living Organ Donation
Barnes Jewish Hospital St. Louis, Mo
I walk slowly, but I never walk backward - Abraham Lincoln |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 02:10 pm: |
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Hey LadyDi,
Are you kidding? Thats not old!!! That's why I love weight lifting, it makes peoples bodies look so good especially as you get older, because it keeps you "full" looking, and prevents stuff from "sagging" hehe. And LadyDi, let me tell you, when you follow up on competitions and go to shows you notice that the older competitors usually take most of the top ranking ;-)
Im glad there are other people that into working out and things of that nature on here. I am new so I need to read up the blogs and catch up on whats up with everyone on here.
I too never believed in supplements and their claims (except stuff like creatine, but that is targeted mostly at men and people who have a hard time gaining muscle, so I never had interest in it). I remember Id take energy pills but it wasnt for fat loss, it was to stay awake while I'd have a full time job+school+gym 5 days a week! lol
But when you do such extreeme diets as for the show, your mind gets really insecure and irrational, and like many others you make mistakes in your last 2 weeks before the show, like me trying out new supplement (which, now looking back, I didnt even need).
Hey Karen,
good luck with your transplant! I hope its resolved soon and you can get back to working out and doing anything you like in general
Hey Rise,
I have some pics from the show on www.fotki.com/mashkany
skip through the stage pics bc some of them are blurry but I keep them on to see how I did on my posing.
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2714
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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Mashka, I cannot take creatine anyway, so it makes no difference what it does, my transplant people said it was a no-no. Hell, they tell me that I also have to limit the amount of protein I can have too, so I guess that it should not come as much surprise. Nice to have you here. Enjoy the site. If you want to look at blogs and enjoy fitness, you might want to take a gander at mine.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 12
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 03:54 pm: |
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Hy Cisco,
Yup I could imagine creatine is not the best for a Kidney lol After this happened to me I finally started to question all the protein I and other people that weight lift eat and what its doing to our kidneys.... hmmmm.
i just started checking out your blog, didnt read all of it though but wow so far so good, you're committed!!! Thats awesome!
Rise! lol
you posted one of my favorite pics hehe although probably a bit too much for this site ? :-X
I have 2 guys in my pics, the tall handsome guy is my brother hehe, and the indian funny guy is my coworker. He started working out because of me and I was teaching him how to do poses in some of the pics, it was a good time.
As far as doing shows? I have been working o ut since I was 14. But started weight lifting seriously (free weights and committed to it) around 2004 i guess. I always loved fit girls and how they looked but never thought I could look like that. And one day I was thinking to myself, i work out so hard and heavy and I dont even know what i look like under all this body fat. Let me start a bodybuilding diet and find out! And looked if there was a show around 3 months after my diet, and there was, and as i started getting closer to the competition, my diet/weight loss was right on point/schedule so i entered the show!
It wasnt fair what so ever as far as the placings, but there are a lot of politics in these shows, especially the natural ones like I do since its a smaller community. But it was fun, actually the craziest rush ever!
But I also live in NY, so around here, almost any gym you go to there is at least a few people that do bodybuilding shows. Guys and girls. So I dont thiink tis that of a big deal.
But as far as motivation, like i said, just wanted to see my REAL bodytype and genetics and amount of muscle I actually had on me!
OK off to the gym!!! you guys are so motivational!! thank you!!!
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10979
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |
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Hi Mashka
I am very curious as to the diet you adhere to now. When you went on your body building diet how much fat did you lose in three months?
I am sure that being in shape helped your recovery time post transplant.
Tell us about your trophy's.
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 09:32 pm: |
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Hey Rise,
Right now Im trying to get back into what is normal for me. Since transplant operation i have been eating everything and anything! I was soooooooo hungry after surgery I couldnt stop eating. But after my rejection they put me on a lot of prednisone and I gained A LOT of weight, its deff not just water weight! So trying to be careful and trying to get back to normal. Normal for me is basically a lot of protein, mostly chicken, baked, boiled or "grilled" cooked using PAM spray. Lots and lots of veggies, even peas and tomatoes when not dieting. Fruits too if not dieting. Some whole wheat bread or oatmeal once in a blue moon. egg whites. That sort of deal. Eat every 3 hours. But right now, I dont think I had one day w out some sort of a sweet/chocolate! Grrrr.... as I do more cardio, its getting easier to get back to normal
When I diet for the show, I expect to lose 2lbs a week. Usually would be on point unless I would cheat more than allowed to by the diet.
You're right Rise, they tell me that my recovery was pretty quick on average and all the nurses and dr's were telling me that that was the reason why. Who knows though, to me, I knew no other examples to compare to (thank god). But yes, lol, on my 3rd day being conscious I was teaching the nurses proper way of doing lunges lolllllllllll DONT ASK! lolll
Oh the trophies.... ugh, I dont want to even discuss it! It was so unfair, if you look at the pictures you'd see why. I did 2 rounds, one is called Figure, and there I received 4th place, but that is ok because I was trembleing like a leaf!!! So its good I even placed at all! And the other trophy is for Fit Body. Which is like figure, you're in heels and feminine look but you do adaptations of bodybuilding poses and they want your body to look more defined and muscular than in Figure competition. There I received 3rd place which was very funny. 2nd place maybe, but being 3rd was just out of line lol But like I said, these kind of shows, they're more for personal achievement than being placed fairly or "getting famous" lol Although! (hehehe evil laugh), even though I got 4th place they put a full page picture of me in Natural Bodybuilding magazine in November issue, unlike the girls that won, that had only tiny 2x3inch pics in the same mag.
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2723
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:29 pm: |
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Lunges? I used to pretend my personal trainer said lunches. I hated those. I still don't like them. But they will get you!! I was using some of the bands that you put around your ankles on Saturday. they come in different colors that are supposed to tell you the amount of resistance they have. I just ordered red, blue and black ones. The resistance increases in that order. I used the blue ones for the first time Saturday. I did the exercises from side to side that build strength in the adductors, abductors and glutes. I did two sets of those. (We use a long hallway to do those in) Then, he decided to have me do some new ones.
He told me to stand like I normally would, widen my stance and walk forward and the backward. He said he called this the Pee Pants exercise!! After we finished two sets of those, he had me get on the balls of my feet and walk forward and backward for two sets. We were talking and I asked him what else I could call the exercise. (What grown man is going to write that in a training journal?) LOL!! I finally settled on calling the whole mess Bands. The first batch is left and right, the second flatfooted F-R and the last tiptoes F-R.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 15
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 09:11 am: |
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Cisco those band exercises sound like fun but I would feel like a fool to do them w out a personal trainer hehe
But yeah lunges are difficult I rarely see men do them. But I think all women should do them especially with barbell. It does amazing things for the glutes! :-)
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 10998
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:12 am: |
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Hi Mashka
I am very interested to learn more about your healing. Your story is quite fascinating to me- because of your attitude and determination to get out there again. Do you plan on competing again?
Since protein powders are not the best for transplant patients, how much protein in one day are you able to consume? If you do not know approximate gram weights, how many times per day do you have a protein source and how much?
I know for me, my kidney and liver numbers are normal, however, I do not want to overdo anything. I am now realizing that I need to have more protein and less carbs in my diet. I just worry about taking in too much protein.
What I am going to start eating is a little bit of protein with every carb source to help keep my glycemic index down. for those out there that want to learn more about glycemic index, click here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic
I going to reach for more protein sources with my snacks. I eat every three hours on average. I do not drink protein shakes but do eat protein bars like pro bar and odwalla bars to name a few when I am out and about or before a workout.
What foods do you eat prior to and after your workouts?
Sounds like fun to teach the nurses lunges after transplant. That should have made CNN headlines. WOW!
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2726
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:24 am: |
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Mashka,
I do my lunges with dumbbells. I am probably due to go up in weight soon, as I have been using 15# dumbbells for awhile. I will build up to the distance I can do with 15#. I usually beat myself up pretty well on my workouts, whether I use a personal trainer or not. (I have a leg press, a treadmill, lat machine and bench with leg and preacher curl attachments) I also have bands, bosu ball, pop-proof ball and medicine ball to work with.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 16
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:38 am: |
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Hey Rise you're funny! CNN headlines she says lol
As far as protein. Right now I don't focus on numbers at all. Just trying to get back to eating 'clean'. I'm sure as my schedule becomes more regular after returning to work it will all fall into place. So right now my portions are prertty big and I don't weight my proteins on a scale.
To be honest the best u can do is get all nutriens through food not chemicals. And as far as protein bars I'm deff not a fan personally because majority of them are well marketed candy bars lol if I'd have something instead of food I'd do a protein powder shake NOT meal replacement one. Only bc I'm not a big fan of carbs, avoid them best I can actually but its hard. Now w this liver situation I need to find out more about the effect on the kidney. But honestly I don't c how 1g protein or even 1.5g per lb of IDEAL LEAN body mass can harm you if u spread it out through the day?
I mean most peoples portions are so big they don't reealize your body can't even use all that protein for muscle growth/support.they think oh protein powders will hurt them more than that huge steak they eat? I dunooooo like I said I need to reseaerch this more just doesn't make sense to me right now.
Oh and personally I always calculate numbers based on lean body mass (ur weight minus the lbs of fat ur carrying). Its all estimates but still.
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 17
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:42 am: |
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Hey Cisco, so you work out at home?
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 11002
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:36 am: |
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A friend of mine who has kidney issues (she had a double lung tx) was told not to have protein powders. She drank them every day along with the bars.
I do agree with you about the bars (glorified healthier type of candy). I just take them for when I am out and about. I probably should go out and have a meal instead. When I go to my transplant clinic and I am hungry or before a test, I sneak in a bar.
I am seeing results little by little and what I mean by that, I am losing fat.
Nice chatting,
Rise'
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2727
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:38 am: |
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At my brother's when I can't get in the gym. (This is a little one-on-one place, and they have three training rooms) Many times, if there is a room available, I can get in and do my own thing. If not, I always have a place to work out with lots of stuff to use. I have spent a couple of bucks on equipment, but it's worth it. I wanted to buy a Smith Machine, but my brother thinks he wants to keep the bench we have. (The one we have has the stand for the barbell attached and you cannot remove it, so I am stuck with it-it is a shame, because you can do more things if you have a Smith Machine) I would say out of five days that I normally work out per week, four are probably at the gym and two of those are with a personal trainer.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 02:34 pm: |
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Nice Rise, if you're seeing results, thats all that matters! Good to hear!
Hey Cisco, are you not allowed to work out with a barbell, is that the reason for use of the smith machine? or you use it if on days you dont have your trainer to spot you?
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 11038
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:12 pm: |
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I came up with a new recipe for my fruits. Instead of just eating plain fruit, I sprinkle some hemp seeds or hemp protein powder on them. It taste delicious too. I am looking into buying chia seeds. I hear they are high in omega 3's as well.
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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lol i thought hemp seed is basically pot? never tried this before
and what are chia seeds???? chia as in "chia pet"??? lol thats the 1st thing that came to my mind when I read that lol
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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Hostess Rise'
Forum Leader
Username: Risa
Post Number: 11039
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:57 pm: |
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LOL I know what you mean.
Hemp seed powder -http://manitobaharvest.com/cartshop/productview.asp?key=11
Chia seeds-http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2737
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 05:10 pm: |
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Mashka, in the past, I have had issues with barbells as far as the balance is concerned. As a result, I have been using the smith machine as well as dumbbells. I plan on going back to the barbells, but have also working on core in order to try to stop any problems with the barbells.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2738
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 05:12 pm: |
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On days when I have a spotter, I use the dumbbells. I am lifting 60 pound db's much of the time. We do have some heavier ones in the gym, I just have not gotten there yet.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 21
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 12:59 pm: |
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thats pretty awesome Cisco, I ask about barbelll only because Im in love with them lollllllll No really, I mean all my favorite power moves Id do with a barbell, like squats, lunges, deadlifts and rows, bench presses, clean and presses. Actually, yesterday I finally did squats with the bar. The bar alone but still, felt great!! I know that it's gonna be time to load the bar with a few lbs next week because 1st set I did 20 reps.....But like I said im biased to the barbell hehe
Rise, gonna check those out, thanks!
Liver transplant 8.14.09
Mount Sinai, NY |
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CiscoKidney07
Forum Leader
Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2743
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 01:41 pm: |
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I do T Bar Squats with a barbell. I have been very easy with getting into doing squats of any kind, well, except for ball squats, simply because my pt wanted to be on the safe, or cautious side with those. The deadlifts, we have a bar at the gym that I just started using. Does not weigh much, but I know how important it is when you start doing an exercise, that you get form down before anything else, because that is how to prevent injuries. I am just a super cautious person, especially in light of the fact that I have had back injuries before. This is the case with both squats and deadlifts. Do you subscribe to any fitness magazines? I get ideas for some of the stuff I do from them. I got a triceps superset out of one. It's called an 'Omni.' Using a long pulldown bar(I think that is what it is), you do a dozen underhand, a dozen overhand and a dozen overhead triceps extensions (with the rope attachment) for three sets. In addition to these, during my present chest/triceps exercise day, I do a dozen lying triceps extensions and twenty five dips, all the three sets. The omni and lying extensions are all done on a cable machine. So I blast my triceps pretty well on that day. I have my days split so that I work five days a week with weights, but in hopes that I will put on some muscle, I refrain from doing cardio like I used to--20 to 28 miles a week. I was not only not gaining any muscle, but I was also not gaining the weight necessary to put on muscle. This has been a real learning situation for me--I never lifted weights until about four or five years ago and my kidney problems started, unbeknownst to me in 2006. I was not into lifting anywhere near what I am now. I have my workouts divided into legs, chest/triceps, back/biceps and shoulders/abs, although abs on one day is kind of a misnomer--I do something for abs almost every day. I do them with shoulders because I needed to separate shoulders from chest days and the fact that I needed to work my shoulders more and also do some rotator cuff exercises in order to strengthen them. Sorry about the rambling, but it is nice to talk with someone who likes to work out.
| There are not too many things in life worth working my butt off for, but my health is one of them |
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Mashka
Member
Username: Mashka
Post Number: 22
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 04:48 pm: |
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Hey cisco,
sounds good. Im a fan of bodybuilding routines too, meaning 1 or 2 bodyparts per day. Like i said before, at this point im just ttrying to get back to a regular routine, so if i make it to the gym at all, im VERY happy lolllll
I do subscribe still to Muscle and Fitness, but ugh, that magazine used to be SO GREAT! Going back to even 1999 or so, but then it changed so much, all it is is advertisements of supplements, even every other article is what supplement to take! ugh! its disgusting really. I still have the old magazines, and since I have all this time off, I've been going through them. They body types they idolized were so different than they do now, and most articles were about working out or nutrition, only a breif here and there about supplements. I also get Oxygen, its a woman;s magazine. I liked it before because they would use models with actual muscles, unlike Shape or other girly magazines.
But you know, all these magazines, I dont find them that useful anymore. i guess after you work out for a while you dont even really think about it too much or think of your own tricks.
But its good to look at fit people, kind of motivating!
There is actually a really cool website, Id print out articles from it and read on the train for motivation (on my way to the gym from work). Its called. there is a forum, message board, but also many many many articles. And I like it a lot because they have really knowledgeable people writing for them. And not only that, its from all kinds of views of fitness, they have bodybuilders writing as well as cross fit guys and powerlifters. They even have sports trainers write articles for them. So basically, anyone that works out, for whatever reason, will find something intersting .
They also have GREAT articles for women too, on the female version of their website called FIGURE ATHLETE. Also, same thing, message board and articles.
Just notice that they are clearly sponsered by one supplement company, i forget the name at the moment, but you will notice, almost every article they're mention its name, llollll So, just skip over that, hehe.
Oh and what you wrote about form. Im with you 100%! That is SO important!! In the end of the day yo u can work out with 5lb dumbells and still feel insane sore the next day (dont know if thats gonna build much muscle though hehe). But yes, form, super important. To this day, I see gym regulars do the STUPIDEST things! so dangerous. And yes Id come up and tell them sometimes, but after a while it gets old and they're more embarassed than thankful so you just try to ignore them
Oh Cisco, by the way! i think I found you on bodybuilding.com hehe
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Mashka
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omg lolll sorry, i wanted to highlight the name of the website but ended up erasing it instead! oops sorry!!!
its called T Nation
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2750
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Yup. And I subscribe online. Another one of the magazines that I get that does not have as much fitness stuff in it, but other stuff, too (not all of the supplements) is Men's Health. They have articles about exercises, clothes, nutrition and all of the other things in men's lives. They usually have about four or five articles on exercises, which, hey, if they are well thought out and written, that is okay with me. And yes, I am on bodybuilding.com, too.
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Hostess Rise'
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Mashka
great website! I watched a few videos and learned some tips.
http://www.healthcentral.com/diabeteens/c/27511/94103/advantage
This was written by one of the lady bodybuilders on that site.
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Risa
Post Number: 11088
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I found this video on their site. Hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkOBUDx5Qs&feature=player_embedded#
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2781
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When I really had to motivate myself, here is how did it. Occasionally, I use this method again. I would look to see what I weighed each morning. If I lost weight, it was, "Hooray, I lost weight, I am going to the gym!!" ( I really did not need much motivation here--I felt good about myself, so I went) If I did not, or if I gained weight, it was, "Oh, gosh, I better go to the gym!!" (I did feel like I should get to the gym ASAP) I had every base covered. I have gotten to understand that unless I am ill or I have hurt myself, there is never a reason not to go to the gym, or at least get some kind of exercise, whether it is riding a bike, walking or whatever.
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Risa
Post Number: 11317
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Hi Cisco
You are the king when it comes to motivation! You are definitely an inspiration without a doubt.
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2786
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My Thanksgiving motivation--there is no question in my mind that I am going to eat too much on Thursday--it is going to happen, no two ways about it. Therefore, there had better be flames coming off of the treadmill come Thursday night!! LOL!! I am helping to prepare the meal plus, I figure I will walk/run 5 miles Thursday night. I am also going to try to fill up on the healthier stuff that we are having for our meal, but attacking everything with equal gusto. <<<<<Yum, yum, yum!
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Meagan
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Username: Newheart14
Post Number: 521
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Cisco,
You are so dedicated to your fitness routine, I am sure everything you eat will be burned off by Friday morning.
Enjoy those yummy dishes.
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2787
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Not unless I can run 100 m.p.h.!!
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2808
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I ended up getting on the treadmill for five miles on Thursday night. Burnt 4050 calories for the day. Good thing! I ate good, too!! LOL!! I am having problems now because this arm keeps bothering me and I cannot do the exercises I want to do. I guess I just have to hang tight, ice my elbow and wait for my next opportunity to do those exercises.
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Mashka
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Username: Mashka
Post Number: 37
Registered: 11-2009
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Cisco you're gonna disappear soon!!! Lolll wow
By the way, its your left elbow hurting? I think everyone that works out has that lol esp from doing pull ups
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 2812
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No, actually it is the right. Think it might be a tendon, dammit!! Sure does put a crimp in my style!! Mashka, the way I eat, there is no way that would EVER, EVER happen.
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gra8ful2
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Username: Kesh
Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2007
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Hi TB,
I have been searching the exercise forums to see if anyone has experienced any of the issues I have with sustaining a workout program as a transplant recipient. These posts have all been very inspiring! Thank you for starting it Cisco. This is an older post, some discussion about injury did come up so I thought I would post here.
Last year, I began working out with a trainer and would walk 3-5 miles in the AM for cardio and do the training class in the evening. After attending a work related conference where I walked back and forth for hours in the conference center (in not so comfy shoes I should add) then walking for exercise in the evening, I developed tendinitis in both ankles. My doctor insisted that I stop everything for several months until the pain subsided.
This year what I have experienced is that if I try to lift more than 5-6lbs dumbbell weight, tendinitis develops in my thumbs/wrists. This is the second time that this has happened this year. It is frustrating! What happens is that the bone below the base of my thumb begins to stick out , very near my wrist, and it is tender to the touch. The first time it happened, my doc said it was the tendon under the protrusion that was inflamed. It is subsiding (it's been about a month now) yet remains a bit sore to the touch.
I gained a lot of weight after the transplant and really want to get rid of it. I came on so quickly and has stubbornly remained! I was put on high doses of prednisone afterward because I did not respond to the initial regimen that I was given. Pre-transplant, whenever I gained prednisone weight, I always lost it without much effort once my dosage was tapered. I really didn't believe the stories about post transplant gain would pertain to me. Little did I know! My regimen finally settled to prednisone, prograf and rapamune and am 5 years transplanted,.
I have been told that because I was an athlete in my younger life, my body requires more in order for me to see results due to muscle memory. What is frustrating is that I seem unable to sustain the required level of intensity that I need to reach my goals because of these setbacks. What happens is that I am not consistent once I am injured, and many of my gains are again lost.
Any suggestions? For instance, once my fingers stop hurting, would more reps of 5-6 pounds actually create definition in my arms (I noted Mashka's comment above about 5lb weights  ), or is there something different I can do with my form so that I don't put pressure on the area between my thumb and forefinger? Should I use resistance bands instead of free weights? Please help. I plan to be measured for foot orthotics, in hopes of preempting any future ankle issues. I would love to become a runner. Even if that does not happen, I hope the orthotics will help with continuing to walk long distances.
Any thoughts, encouragement, suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 4197
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Actually, my wife is going to do the orthotics, too. She has been going to a chiropractor who recommended them. She has always been unsteady on her feet and I think that he thinks that she is way out of whack and this is why. I am unsure as to how these will affect tendinitis. Did you ask the doctor if there was anything that you could do about the problems to keep from having the pain? In ankles? In hands? I am pretty sure that you can buy bands that do not have handles--they are just pieces of rubber. You would not have to put them between thumb and forefingers, you can put them around other fingers while exercising. You might ask the doctor if he thinks othotics will help your ankles. I would be asking questions of the doctor if I were in your shoes. If it will help your ankles to have special shoes, that might be the answer. I know that when I get on the treadmill I have a tendency to burn more calories than if I lift weights. If you get encouraging words from the doctor, that might be the place to start.
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gra8ful2
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Username: Kesh
Post Number: 11
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I did not consider the bands without handles. Great suggestion! I will talk with him again. We have not discussed my hands yet. |
CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 4220
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You might look at your local library to see if they have some fitness books. Some have pictures and if you can wrap your head around it, you might be able to pick out exercises that are done one way in a book and figure out how you could adapt them to doing them in another way. Keep in mind that you will want to maintain the same form as in the original exercise. This will hold true with band exercises, too
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doctor zain
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Username: Doctor_zain
Post Number: 4
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Very awesome and informative discussions here, thanks for sharing with us and we hope to read more from you experts. We always want to know about health problems. |
John D
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To give myself additional incentive on my walking, I did the Virtual Walk Across America. You put in your miles, and there is a trail photo every 0.1 miles. It goes from Virginia to Oregon, not a straight line route, 4063 miles. I use a fitbit to track my steps and miles.
http://exercise.lbl.gov/index.html
Heart transplant
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Cleveland Clinic |
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Rise
Post Number: 17008
Registered: 05-2003
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Thank you John for sharing this website.
I am happy you are able to track your progress.
Congratulations!
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LadyDi
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Username: Ladydi
Post Number: 2739
Registered: 03-2008
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Really cool idea John!
Thanks!
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Thresea 2005 pancreas
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Username: Thresea
Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2009
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I need motivation!! Last night I went back to the gym after not going since before the holidays and I'm not talking Christmas ...thanksgiving ugh. I have two big cycle events this year and I have got to get this extra ten yes I said ten that was put on during this brief holiday time. I will never be able to climb hills with this extra dragging me down. My trainer has put me on a no dairy and mainly fruit and vegetable for two weeks, she called it a detox. Wish me luck. |
Tamara
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Username: Heppygirl
Post Number: 68
Registered: 05-2011
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Haha very recognizable!! I haven't worked out either since the summer (oops) and I want to lose 6-8 pounds...
Tamara
24y/o, from the Netherlands
Cystic Fibrosis, Dxed at birth
Bilateral lungtransplant, September 2010
http://muffinmeetsworld.blogspot.com
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 5224
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 08:44 am: |
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How to motivate yourself? Do you have a picture of yourself at the desired weight you once were and want to be now? Hang it up on your refrigerator!
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Tamara
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Username: Heppygirl
Post Number: 69
Registered: 05-2011
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That picture is not very motivating :P It's one before my transplant, with oxygen thin arms and legs and a fat belly. Wasn't very active at that moment, so nót comparable to what I want to be..
Tamara
24y/o, from the Netherlands
Cystic Fibrosis, Dxed at birth
Bilateral lungtransplant, September 2010
http://muffinmeetsworld.blogspot.com
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 5225
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 05:37 pm: |
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Well, then I guess you need to imagine what you would look like at the weight you want to be.
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Rise
Post Number: 17030
Registered: 05-2003
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Start with some girly pushups and visualize how you want your body to feel. Looks will always come.
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Rise
Post Number: 17031
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By the way, you are a very pretty young lady.
I meant looks how your want your body to look
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Tamara
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Username: Heppygirl
Post Number: 70
Registered: 05-2011
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Haha yeah... How I want, and what I can get are two different things. But well.. ;)
I'm back to Tennis again (troubles with my foot are almost over luckily!) And going ice skating once a week! (I;m a dutchie, what do you want haha)
Tamara
24y/o, from the Netherlands
Cystic Fibrosis, Dxed at birth
Bilateral lungtransplant, September 2010
http://muffinmeetsworld.blogspot.com
Anywhoo... |
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Tamara
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Username: Heppygirl
Post Number: 71
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Forgot to ask: Before I got "bad" I could do 5 manly push-ups... But now I'm afraid to try one, because my chest is still sensitive.. Who is doing manly push-ups and is it going ok?
Second: I danced for three hours last sunday, and my muscles (espacially in my upper legs and in my arms) are very sore!! Good workout! ;)
Tamara
24y/o, from the Netherlands
Cystic Fibrosis, Dxed at birth
Bilateral lungtransplant, September 2010
http://muffinmeetsworld.blogspot.com
Anywhoo... |
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LadyDi
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Username: Ladydi
Post Number: 2747
Registered: 03-2008
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Hi Tamara! At the gym I go to, they have the thick rubber bands as assistance for push ups. Those might work for you. What they do is loop one around a sturdy pull up bar. Then loop a second band through that one. Put your arms through the two loops of the second band and try your pushups. The bands provide enough assistance and support that you can do a regular push up without worrying about dropping chest first on the floor.
Good luck!
And good luck to you too, Theresa! The holidays were not kind to my waistline either! Good luck with the detox!
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Rise
Post Number: 17035
Registered: 05-2003
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Lady Di
Could you take a picture or link to an image of this assistance device. This sounds amazing.
Tamara
I am not sure about pushups with chest issues. Can you call your doctor?
I can do a few manly pushups but I know in a short time I will be able to do more. In the meantime, I do sets of twenty and work my way down to ten rep girly pushups then I do my crunchies and yoga workout.
Sounds to me like you are enjoying your new lungs ! Keep on working out.
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Hostess Rise'
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Username: Rise
Post Number: 17036
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Tamara
If your doctor says it is ok to do pushups, you can always start with a wall pushup. Hands on the wall and just push away and then come back. I like to keep my knees bent a bit.
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CiscoKidney07
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Username: Gregg
Post Number: 5228
Registered: 03-2008
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Remember "The Little Engine That Could? You just have to tell yourself that you CAN do it. As Rise says, make sure that whatever you are attempting to do, call your doctor and be sure that this is something you should be doing.
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