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Rocket Heart
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Username: Rocketheart583

Post Number: 407
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not related to anything medical - just one of those ol' man moments - My question is this: can you love someone without liking them?

Ponder if you will??????
Rocket Heart

Tom Emahiser
Waterville, Oh
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ed
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Username: Ed2001

Post Number: 77
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tom,

Is this a brain teaser? LOL!

On the serious note, I think it is possible. Though quite rare, I believe it happens.

My situation will be one rare example. My parents, ever since I got sick haven't really be nice to me. They view me as inferior and somewhat at a lower level when compared to others. They often degrade me, call me 'sick' and other names, tell me I can't do this and that because of who I am, tell me other people see me as inferior, are ashamed of having me around, ashamed of what I am, and so on. Basically, we don't speak much anymore.

So in short, they don't like me.

But still, they continue to sneak a peak at me to make every now and then to see if I'm ok. They do offer some helpful stuff every now and then, and when bad things happen, they stick with me. They do make sure to get their few minutes of anger release of course in the process, hehehe.

So although they may not like me, I still believe they do love me. Strange huh.

PS. Do I win anything for solving the riddle?
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eccoblue
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Post Number: 1547
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you really care for someone, like a spouse or a family member, you can love them without having to be around them when you don't have anything in common or disagree about stuff. If you want to be around someone because you're compatible, then you would like them, but you don't have to love them. My mom drives me nuts sometimes because we think differently, but I still love her very much even though I don't necessarily like her. Maybe, it's more like not liking how someone is instead of not liking them personally. I think i just confused myself!

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Diane
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Post Number: 559
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, I totally think it is possible.

Could be someone who has been in your life for a long time, who you continue to love, only now their behaviour does not fit for your values and ethics, so you may no longer like them on a face to face level, but in the bigger;picture you still love this person very much.
Diane
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WendyLaski
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Username: Wendylaski

Post Number: 112
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes! I had a HUGE fight with my mom last night, and I can tell you that I did not like her one bit at the time. Of course I still love her, though.

"Like" as a verb means "to take pleasure in."
"Love" as a verb means "to have affection for."

You can have affection for someone without taking pleasure in them at a particular time. I think that love is lasting, whereas like can depend on the situation.

Just my two cents,
Wendy :-)
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Hostess Rise
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Post Number: 13881
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

WHAT A Fantastic Question!
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Rita
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have had and had people who I love in my life that are family that I love. I can tell you honestly they make me crazy ( you know they know how to push all your buttons from childhood). I can say I like them in small doses, but I love them and can not spend extended periods of time with them .

I can also tell you after 32 years of being married, there were days that I did not like my husband ( only maybe 5 in our times together), but I loved him those days. On those 5 days I didnt like the way he chewed his food, sat in a chair etc --lol. Some days you have to sit down and say Ok is it the world that is wrong or me. On those five days I decided it was me I didnt like. :-)
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DAP1122
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Post Number: 1899
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is this a senior moment, Rocket? This is what I can look forward to when I hit Six-Oh later this year?

I think you can love someone, but not like them at various points. After I'm Six-Oh, I might have a different answer?

Take care, my friend!
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Rocket Heart
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Username: Rocketheart583

Post Number: 408
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Big Don - me - senior moment??? Buddy that's all I seem to have!!! Good luck at the 60 thing - I am now on the down side of the 60's turning 66 this year - it just keeps gettin' better all the time.

All my best to you too!
Rocket Heart

Tom Emahiser
Waterville, Oh
Heart Failure
Heart Txplt 1/26/05 University of Michigan
Hostess Rise
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Username: Rise

Post Number: 14074
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi all
I moved this thread because I felt it was important for this to be on this forum. This thread was on the welcome to transplantbuddies forum toward the bottom as it was no longer at the top.
Cystic Fibrosis- dx at 2yrs. -2nd double lung tx-05
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Jackson Memorial Hospital

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BreathinSteven
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Post Number: 2137
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I guess we're probably dealing in semantics here -- the meanings of either or both words can be so easily intertwined... When we were younger -- "like" meant like -- and sometimes "love" meant really-really-really-like-a-whole-lot... To some of us -- "love" is just a much stronger version of "like"...

I once heard an interesting little definition -- that the opposite of "love" is not "hate" -- the opposite of "love" is "indifference"... It kinda made sense to me because if you love something or someone, you care deeply about it or them -- but if you're indifferent, you just don't care... And circling around that definition -- "hate" seems to oppose "like" -- it seems to be a stronger form of dislike...

And like Kelli, Rita and Wendy pointed out -- there are certain people we will always love in our lives, but from time to time they will pi$$ us off and we may not like them, or like their actions at a particular moment, but that may not change our underlying love for them... (Unless it happens a bit too often!!!)

But again -- much of it is probably semantics -- games we're playing with words and their meanings... And we're always better off being loved or liked than being disliked, hated, ignored or having someone feel indifferent about you... It makes me think of a bunch of pre-teen girls sitting in a circle discussing their latest crushes: "Do you like him? Or do you like-him-like-him? Do you love him? Or do you lurve him???"

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Hostess Rise
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Username: Rise

Post Number: 14652
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just had a passing thought. I know this is not grammatically correct so here goes....

"Relaxation is a great friend to have" I am sure you all understand this concept.
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BRAVEHEART
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Post Number: 491
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My mother always told us you can love someone, but there no rule says you have to like them.

Sheila
Kidney Transplant
Augusr 11, 2007
Fort Worth, Texas
blackrosegul
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2015
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Buddy that's all I seem to have!!! Good luck at the 60 thing - I am now on the down side of the 60's turning 66 this year - it just keeps gettin' better all the time.
GUL

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